8 episodes

I'm Lisa. This is the story of my mom’s decades-long journey from Cambodia to America. And it’s a long overdue conversation between the two of us, about our family’s history — through war and violence, separation and loss, endings and beginnings.

Before Me Lisa Phu and Self Evident Media

    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 175 Ratings

I'm Lisa. This is the story of my mom’s decades-long journey from Cambodia to America. And it’s a long overdue conversation between the two of us, about our family’s history — through war and violence, separation and loss, endings and beginnings.

    Part 1: Firstborn

    Part 1: Firstborn

    When I became a parent, my mom flew across the country to help me take care of my firstborn child. And opened up to share a story I’d never fully heard, about her firstborn child — the sister I’ve never met. (Content Warning: Descriptions of death during war, acts of genocide, family separation)

    Full show notes, credits, and transcript here.

    • 26 min
    Part 2: Photograph

    Part 2: Photograph

    As the genocidal regime of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge takes hold of Cambodia, my mom and dad run for their lives — separated from my cousin, Lynn, who's then faced with keeping her siblings alive in a forced labor camp.
    Full show notes, credits, and transcript here.

    • 36 min
    Part 3: Beautiful Country

    Part 3: Beautiful Country

    Reunited with my cousin Lynn, my mom becomes a gold dealer to support her growing family — and realizes that the charmed childhood she had in Cambodia is nowhere to be found for her own kids. She recounts the joyful memories that helped her hold on for more than five years as a refugee in Vietnam, before making the decision to leave both countries for good.
    Full show notes, photos, credits, and transcript on our web site.

    • 28 min
    Part 4: Head of the House

    Part 4: Head of the House

    At the moment my mom steps onto a small fishing boat off the coast of Cambodia, headed for a refugee camp in Thailand under cover of night, she becomes the head of our family. It takes her less than a year to make it safely to her new home in New York, give birth to me, and learn how to be a single parent in the U.S. But it will end up taking her decades to process what she’s overcome, what she’s become, and what she’s left behind on the beaches of Cambodia.
    Full show notes, photos, credits, and transcript on our web site.

    • 31 min
    Part 5: Birthday Card

    Part 5: Birthday Card

    Just before I gave birth to my daughter Acacia, I turned 36. And on my birthday my mom sent me a birthday card that was full of heartfelt words — more than she’d ever written to me before. On the last night of her visit to help me take care of Acacia, as she read the card aloud, I realized how I was — and still am — a part of the lives that came before me.
    Full show notes, photos, credits, and transcript on our web site.

    • 17 min
    Self Evident Presents: “Live! Making Before Me With Lisa Phu” (by The Vietnamese Boat People podcast)

    Self Evident Presents: “Live! Making Before Me With Lisa Phu” (by The Vietnamese Boat People podcast)

    Our friend Tracey Nguyen Mang, host of the Vietnamese Boat People Podcast, goes behind the scenes with Lisa Phu in this conversation — about how to document the lives of our parents, when that process can feel overwhelming.
     
    This episode, recorded live online, is the Season 6 Premiere of The Vietnamese Boat People, a podcast and nonprofit project that preserves the story of the Vietnamese diaspora community — and provides spaces where people can share their experiences. This latest season of their podcast follows the theme, “Ba, Mẹ ơi” (which roughly translates to "Dear Dad and Mom"). You can listen to more stories from the season by searching for “Vietnamese Boat People” where you get podcasts, or on their website.

    • 47 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
175 Ratings

175 Ratings

CeCeZavala ,

Before Me is one of the best podcasts I have ever listened to

Before Me is by far one of the best podcasts I have ever listened to. Thank you for sharing your family with all of us. Wishing you, your mom, and cousin all of the best. Your mom and cousin are so brave to share their story. What remarkable women. I will be sharing your podcast with friends and family.

GOOOOaudi ,

Amazing story of resilience and love

I heard a preview of the story on KPBS and right away pulled up Before Me on my pod feed. Listened to the whole thing the next day! It really makes you think about how easy our lives are today because of the sacrifices our parents made, especially immigrant parents. I cannot imagine everything they had to overcome… without all of the conveniences and luxuries we have today. They are amazing, strong resilient people. Also, those that assisted immigrants and volunteered there time and goodwill shouldn’t be forgotten. Great story. Share it with your family!

Annoyed Mutant ,

Our parents are people too

So much of this resonated with me, thank you for sharing this beautiful and intimate story of loss, tradition, love and new beginnings.

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