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【聊了什么The What】

第96届奥斯卡颁奖典礼在两天前刚刚结束，疲惫娇娃在所有奖项公布之后录了一期播客来聊聊我们当下的感受和反应。在奥斯卡这个奖项在过去的很多年被反复的质疑、挑战之后，在以“学院奖”自居的奥斯卡看起来越来越和时代精神脱节时，我们还是想借助这个颁奖典礼，来重新审视“学院奖”和2023年许多电影（比如《芭比》）和社会事件（比如全世界正在发生的战争）的交织和互动，从而去审视支撑它的历史包袱、权力、固化和正在逐步调整的审美——以及，为什么它仍旧是电影节的最高奖项？赢得它，或者不赢得它，提名，或者不被它提名，意味着什么。

The CyberPink squad is back with an episode on the recently wrapped 96th Academy Awards!

Over the past few years, the Academy Awards have faced a lot of questioning and criticism. As the self-proclaimed pinnacle of cinematic excellence, the Academy is struggling to maintain its reputation and convince people of its relevance. But the Oscars ceremony still provides an interesting lens to examine how this major cultural institution addresses ongoing events - from the writers and actors strikes to the conflict in Gaza. Which films, actors and actresses win ultimately is not based on merit, but on a myriad of factors and a relentless awards season campaign that has become the norm of the industry, a profound legacy of none other than Harvey Weinstein and his company Miramax.

We discuss the history of Oscars, its genre bias, and what we think about the “Barbie snub.”

【时间轴 The When】


00:00 颁奖典礼的回顾和高光时刻


08:23 颁奖典礼外，加沙和乌克兰的战火


21:04 奥斯卡的种族多样性进步了吗？


25:02 奥斯卡颁奖的竞选游戏，包括宣传策略和资源投入


33:05 奥斯卡的类型偏见


48:12 女性导演和女性主导电影在奥斯卡中的困境，特别是对《Barbie》和《Poor Things》的讨论


56:42 彩蛋：没想到我们还能继续聊poor things


00:00 Highlights and memorable moments of the 2024 Oscars Awards


08:23 Addressing the war in Gaza and Ukraine


21:04 Is the Oscars doing better in diversity?


25:02 The bloodsport of Oscars campaigning


33:05 The Academy’s genre bias


48:12 Ongoing challenges of female filmmakers in the industry


56:42 Yet more on "Poor Things"



【拓展链接 The Links】

Oscar Wars: A History of Hollywood in Gold, Sweat, and Tears
I Still Believe in the Power of Sexual Freedom
Jonathan Glazer’s Oscar Speech Becomes Latest Battleground in Israel-Gaza Conflict
BarbieGate: Why All Oscars Snubs Are Not Created Equal
The profound weirdness of Robert Downey Jr.’s Oscar win — and the category he won
Is A24, the Indie Upstart with a Fresh Best-Picture Win, the Next Miramax?

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

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【聊了什么The What】

奥斯卡提名的作品《美国小说》American Fiction讲述了一个陷入这样的创作难题的黑人作家Monk——在以自己作为主体的Monk自己的书不被出版界和读者买账，却发现一部“迎合白人观众、贩卖黑人创伤和贫困”的书却大卖。于是Monk决定用通过写一部充满所以刻板印象的“黑人文学”去反抗自己的命运。但是却遭遇了一系列的家庭变故。

把这个故事翻译到疲惫娇娃熟悉的语境中，我们也能找到共通的挑战：女性书写女性的苦难一定是“吃女权饭”吗？亚裔书写亚裔的创伤是“迎合白人观众”吗？如何在忠于自我生活的创作中，同时能够获得创作的体面（收入、关注等等）？如何演绎生活的复杂度，同时也能鼓励其他族群的人和“我”共情？

一个很会写的女的Caiwei也加入了这场对话。

The Oscar-nominated work "American Fiction" tells the story of Thelonius “Monk” Ellison, a Black writer who finds himself in a creative dilemma. Out of anger, spite, and disappointment in the publishing industry status quo, he takes up a pen name and writes a piece of "Black literature" filled with stereotypes as a form of rebellion, yet the publishing world gobbles it all up.

The movie, when translated into familiar contexts, reveals universal challenges: Is it merely a form of capitalizing on feminism when women write about women's suffering? Is it catering to white audiences when Asians write about Asian trauma? How can one stay true to their own life experiences in their creative work, while also achieving dignity in creation (income, attention, etc.)? How can the complexity of life be conveyed in a way that also encourages empathy from people of other ethnic groups?

Caiwei, our a talented female writer friend, also joins this dialogue.

【时间轴 The When】

00:00 电影《美国小说》和电影导演编剧Cord Jefferson

05:58 对家庭故事部分的讨论，包括男主角Monk的家庭背景和家族创伤：人生的复杂度和混乱从Monk的角度徐徐展开

17:39 电影中对白人出版界人物的扁平化描写和对白人观众的讽刺

34:00 故事中穿插着故事，这个电影是一个三个圆嵌套的非常meta的结构; 女作家和Monk是互通的，而不是互为对立

40:59 电影结尾的开放式处理和对创作者能讲怎样的故事的探讨

01:00:23 我们值得看到真诚、细腻的少数族裔故事

00:00 “American Fiction”: overview of this Oscar-nominated movie and its creator: screenwriter-turned-director Cord Jefferson

05:58 The duality of the movie: intertwining storylines of the literary plot and the family drama, the complexity of life as a middle-aged man, all from protagonist Monk’s point of view

17:39 The intentional one-dimensional portrayal of characters in the publishing industry and the satirization of a white audience

34:00 The meta structure of this movie’s storytelling

40:59 Our discussion around the choice for an open-ended ending and what kind of creators are allowed to tell what kinds of stories

01:00:23 We all deserve to see authentic and nuanced stories

01:06:55 Bella's patricide, reconciliation with her father, and eventual symbolic rebirth as her father

【拓展链接 The Links】

https://tinhouse.com/on-pandering/

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more.

【聊了什么The What】

《可怜的东西》是一部关于剥削与女性命运的丰富、引人深思、扭曲的成长故事。在跟随好奇而大胆的主角贝拉·巴克斯特的两个小时里，我们闯入了贝拉的生活中，同时收获了一种“有益的混乱”——能够帮助我们理解了一系列复杂的问题：在一个企图界定和限制女性的世界里寻求女性自主权，性工作作为一种艰苦、剥削性质的劳动，以及在某种程度上，生物黑客技术和CRISPR伦理问题。

Poor Things is a juicy, chewy, twisted coming-of-age fable about exploitation and womanhood. The two hours we spent following the curious, bold protagonist Balla Baxter provided a helpful chaos for us to metabolize an array of complex problems: the pursuit of female autonomy in a world seeking to define and confine it, the nature of sex work as gritty, exploitative labor, and, at some point, the ethics of biohacking and CRISPR.

【时间轴 The When】

00:00 今年颁奖季的宠儿Poor Things以及为什么我们要重新录制这集播客

04:04 我们对于这个电影的第一感受

10:10 “成熟女人的身体与婴儿的心智“——为什么我们对于Bella的担心程度随着她的旅程展开而忽上忽下？

13:45 Poor Things是一部彻底翻转过来的《洛丽塔》？

23:40 (假装我们在聊这部电影）电影的设定导致我们去思考了文本中复杂的性同意

35:47 Poor Things的科幻设定——人类为何恐惧技术？Bella是一个关于AI的角色（？？？），科学设定和伦理困境

45:30 我们对于现有科技以及特权人群改造人体的探讨

51:12 从事性工作的Bella和她的劳工意识觉醒

01:06:55 Bella弑父，和父亲和解，最后“变成父亲”的旅程

00:00 Poor Things - This awards season's darling - and why we're re-recording this podcast

04:04 Our first impressions of the film

10:10 "A mature woman's body with an infant's mind" - Why do our concerns over Bella fluctuate throughout her journey?

13:45 Is Poor Things a thoroughly inverted Lolita?

23:40 (Pretending we're discussing the film) - How the storyline prompts pondering complex consent ethics within the text

35:47 Poor Things' sci-fi premise - Why does technology unnerve humanity? Is Bella an allegory for AI (?) - scientific concepts and ethical dilemmas

45:30 Our exploration of current technologies and how privileged groups alter human bodies

51:12 Bella's awakened labor consciousness after entering sex work

01:06:55 Bella's patricide, reconciliation with her father, and eventual symbolic rebirth as her father

【拓展链接 The Links】

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5149/9781469661940_berg

https://www.thelancet.com/series/HIV-and-sex-workers

https://www.thecut.com/2014/01/qa-the-woman-debunking-myths-about-sex-work.html

https://pwd.org.au/sex-work-and-the-ndis-frequently-asked-questions/

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

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【聊了什么The What】

疲惫娇娃的一季度一次的"氛围检查"aka闲聊节目又来了。从庆祝人生的某些瞬间，到对于婚礼各种细节的选择和对”物品“之间的拧巴关系，再到”怎么才能好好玩“，再到“最近上头下头是啥”，我们又絮絮叨叨聊了一个半小时。

In our quarterly “vibe check” tradition aka rambling chatfest, the CyberPink girls back to dive shallow(ish) once more.
We hit the full life spectrum - from celebrating magical moments, untangling our love/hate with things (to Marie Kondos’s delight/chagrin), pondering how to properly “adult”...to spiraling into ‘what’s trending hot and not’ before emerging somehow wiser. Or at least blissfully 90 minutes older.

【时间轴 The When】

01:15 浅浅开头，这集播客我们基本上都在闲聊，如果你想听干货的话这期并没有

02:20 我们各自的焦虑梦

05:50 过去一年没发生什么大事，然后小蓝突然随便结了个婚

08:20 花酱对于小蓝的婚礼上"礼乐”的理解

14:20 小蓝在写婚礼誓词的心路过程

19:25 我们如何解读“结婚”? 如何庆祝一个人的存在？

37:00 一芳的登基故事和一场回门宴引发的地缘政治事件

54:40 我们最近的上头和下头

1:16:00 活着就是挣点钱然后再去玩

00:15 Super casual open - this episode is all about random banter

02:20 Each sharing anxiety dreams plaguing our sleep/nap

05:50 The past year = no major events really...except Xiaolan randomly threw a wedding?!

08:20 Hana-chan interprets wedding ceremony “rituals”

14:20 Xiaolan details her agonizing vow-drafting journey

19:25 How we each approach/view “marriage”

37:00 Yifang's "enthronement" story...includes the "geo-political" drama at a wedding (!!)

54:40 Our latest addictions/obsessions

01:16:00 let's earn some $ then go play?

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

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【聊了什么The What】

2023年末，疲惫娇娃又与友台不合时宜录制了一期“不时疲惫”，与大家分享一些2023年我们不愿意透露的脆弱时刻。我们围坐在一起，聊起过去一年中各自独自在黑夜与灵魂对视的脆弱瞬间、无法解开的心结、尚未获得疗愈的创伤。希望你听到这期节目能够收获一些力量。大家新年快乐。

As the ball is about to drop to ring in 2024, CyberPink joined up with our comrades to put together another episode — a raw confessional session airing those vulnerabilities from the past year that we’d rather keep under wraps. We gathered round, spinning yarns into the wee hours about our solitary moments of fragility over months past, staring into the abyss of our souls as darkness enveloped us; the lingering emotional baggage yet to be reconciled and wounds still laid bare for all to see. And cheers to a bright new year ahead, friends.

【时间轴 The When】

（本次时间轴文案由不合时宜提供）

01:35 这期节目的由来：不时疲惫一相聚，都会jam出一集节目；而这期节目关于脆弱和痛苦

03:34 第一次去做心理咨询，心路历程经历了什么变化?

10:43 当一段亲密关系逝去以后，“我”的一部分似乎被带走

14:17 跟父母的关系——遥远又亲近

22:28 埋藏在你的成长经历当中的基底，确实形塑了你是什么样的一个人

36:45 和黑暗的情绪共处时，你用什么方式拉自己出来？

52:33 因为ego的保护，自己可能看不到一些真相

01:01:28 现代人的情绪问题不是一个个体的现象，而是集体性、社会性的现象

01:04:12 在“钱越花越有”的口号下，人人向往模板化的生活，遮蔽了内心真正的追寻

01:09:57 为什么身心灵吸引了那么多女性,这是女权的失败吗?

01:15:13 如何理解宗教对现代社会的作用?

01:25:32 在活着以外，还能做一些正向的事情,就已经额外再创造意义了

01:30:16 如何平衡、界定EGO和自我主体?

01:35 we reunited and had this soulful discussions flow, as in this episode pondering vulnerability and anguish

03:34 One's inaugural therapy session - an intense inner reckoning

10:43 As intimacy dissolves, the lingering sense of losing part of oneself

14:17 Bonds with our parents - profoundly close yet distant

22:28 How the cornerstones of our formative years shape the essence of our identities

36:45 Battling melancholy moods - drawing one's psyche toward sanguinity

52:33 Does ego shield us from difficult self-truths?

01:01:28 Emotional malaise today is not merely personal but shared collective discontent

01:04:12 The compulsion to believe in “the more you consume, the more you have” obscures genuine inner purpose

01:09:57 Why does self-care retain feminine coding - a patriarchal relic?

01:15:13 Can religion still sustain modern life's demands?

01:30:16 Reconciling ego and selfhood - a perpetual undertaking

【拓展链接 The Links】

Gift from the Sea by Anne Morrow Lindbergh

【疲惫红书 CyberRed】

除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。

Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!

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【聊了什么The What】
有人说Bottoms 垫底俱乐部是一部高校性转版的《搏击俱乐部》，但其实远远不止如此。它荒诞离奇，充满暴力和一些隐藏的不算太深的讽刺和哲思，是适合我们这个时代的美国高校喜剧电影。
故事围绕着Josie和PJ这一对好友展开，她们是这所美国高中食物链的底层，不只是因为她们是拉拉，而是用她们自己的话来说：“gay，ugly and untalented”。在高三毕业前的最后一年这对好友决心突破自己，互为僚机泡到全校最受欢迎的拉拉队队员，而她们达成目标的方式就是阴差阳错组建了这个高中第一个女子搏击俱乐部。
这一期，小蓝和四位酷儿/Gen Z/Older Millennial朋友们，也是一档全新的女权喜剧播客《大波福娃》的主播们，一起聊了聊这部酷儿青少年校园“发烧梦”。

Some say "Bottoms" is a high-school-themed, gender-flipped version of "Fight Club," but it's far more than that. It's a bizarre and whimsical journey, filled with violence and some blazen satire and not-so-subtle philosophical musings— a perfect update of the high school comedy genre fit for our times.

The story revolves around Josie and PJ, a dynamic duo situated at the bottom rung of the American high school social ladder. Their struggles extend beyond being lesbians; in their own words, they're "gay, ugly, and untalented." In their final year before graduating high school, this determined pair sets out to break free from their constraints to date the two most popular cheerleaders in the school. Their unconventional method? Accidentally forming the first all-female fight club in the high school.

In this episode, Xiaolan and her four queer/Gen Z/Older Millennial friends, who are the hosts of the brand-new feminist comedy podcast "Dat Beauvoir," convene to chat about this queer teenage "fever dream."

本期参与录制的有：


桃子（she/her）：一个还没出道就隐退了的业余脱口秀演员，精通捆粽子和翻花绳


跑跑（they/them）：工匠/小丑/人民教师/高科技亚逼（消歧义），尊重且热爱谐音梗，老龄 Z 世代。


小苕 (it/its)：一颗零零后坡塔头，咖喱牛腩里的薯仔，地三鲜里的土豆


Nancy (she/her)：惨惨的博士僧，是一个older millennial中年人


Sis Peach (she/her): I have a Golden retriever, a plush dog with an imaginary ESA vest.


Runrun (they/them): local shop tech / clown / adjunct / computer beep boops, pun always intended.


Shao (it/its): A potato with Chinese characteristics. Can’t be fried or smashed.


Nancy (she/her): a struggling PhD, older millennial



【时间轴 The When】


00:00 对电影的初印象：高校性转版的《搏击俱乐部》?


10:46 电影里的主要女性角色


33:51 时空错乱美学：Y2K的视觉叠加在2023年的观念上


43:30 美国高校电影和我们的酷儿启蒙


54:48 为什么这部电影里的暴力如此令人心旷神怡（？）


01:15:54 这个电影吃了几个性别研究博士生？


01:32:58 今夏其他破破烂烂间歇发疯但是歌颂暖心女性友谊的喜剧电影


00:00 Initial Impressions of the Movie: A Gender-Swap High School Version of "Fight Club"?


10:46 Deep dive on our favorite characters


33:51 Aesthetic of Temporal Disarray: Y2K Visuals Superimposed on 2023 Concepts


43:30 American High School Movies and Our Queer Enlightenment


54:48 Why the Violence in This Movie is So Delightfully Liberating (?)


01:15:54 This Film is a Gender Studies Love Fest


01:32:58 Other Ragged, Intermittently Insane, Yet Heartwarming Comedies Celebrating Female Friendship This Summer



【拓展链接 The Links】
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