14 episodes

Welcome to the being better together podcast, from Learning from Excellence and Civility Saves Lives. This podcast is a series of conversations with people who inspire us, about making healthcare a better place to work. We cover a wealth of topics, from workplace cultures, through inspiration, laughter and joy, to appreciative inquiry and how do work safely.

Being Better, Together Learning from Excellence and Civility Saves Lives

    • Health & Fitness

Welcome to the being better together podcast, from Learning from Excellence and Civility Saves Lives. This podcast is a series of conversations with people who inspire us, about making healthcare a better place to work. We cover a wealth of topics, from workplace cultures, through inspiration, laughter and joy, to appreciative inquiry and how do work safely.

    Series 2, episode 3: Anna Baverstock on wellbeing.

    Series 2, episode 3: Anna Baverstock on wellbeing.

    Dr Anna Baverstock is a consultant in community child health, and also a coach, mediator and schwarz round facilitator.  In this conversation, we discuss a range of topics relating to Anna’s work, including definitions of wellbeing; approaches to challenging conversations; mediation in healthcare; differentiating kindness from “niceness”; feedback and radical candour; how to encourage diversity in teams; and much more.





    Anna's suggested reading list related to the topics in this conversation:


    Brené Brown - Atlas of the heart
    (Hear Anna's podcast on this book:
    Atlas of the Heart (buzzsprout.com)
    Kim Scott - Radical Candor
    Stone & Heen - Thanks for the Feedback
    Amy Edmundson - The Fearless Organisation 
    Daniel Coyle - The Culture Code 
    Marshall Rosenberg - non violent communication
    Amanda Ripley - High Conflict
    Adam Grant - Think Again
    Timothy Clarke - 4 stages of psychological safety
    Trzeciak & Mazzarelli - Compassionomics

    • 1 hr 8 min
    Series 2, episode 2: Bob Klaber on kindness in healthcare

    Series 2, episode 2: Bob Klaber on kindness in healthcare

    This episode is a recording of a converwith Dr Bob Klaber. Bob is a paediatrician, and director of strategy, research and innovation at Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust in London. Bob also leads an initiative called Kindness in Healthcare, a global community of healthcare professionals who come together once a month to discuss and reflect on kindness in healthcare.
    In this conversation we touch on a few areas, including: 

    The work of Professor Leonard Berry in characterising kindness and healthcare, and demonstrating its benefits in terms of patient outcomes. 
    Why and how we should measure kindess.
    The impact of role-modelling on the behaviour of others.  
    How to tackle unkind behaviours without being hostile. 
    And much more... 

    Along the way we draw parallels and shared learning with the work of Learning from Excellence and Civitlity Saves Lives.

    Some references from the conversation:

    An example of Prof Len Berry's work:
    "Getting the measure of kindness", Carnegie UK.

    • 48 min
    Series 2, episode 1: Janet Leighton on directing happiness.

    Series 2, episode 1: Janet Leighton on directing happiness.

    This episode is a recording of our conversation with Janet Leighton, the "Director of Happiness" at Timpson's. In this conversation, Janet and Adrian discuss the origin of this role and what it involves, as well as many of the initiatives Timpsons have put in place to support their staff. They also discuss the Happy Index: Timpson's only Key Performance Indicator (KPI). Although Timpson's is a private company, we think there is much we can learn and apply from their approach to working in the NHS. It is clear that Timspons's promote staff autonomy, recognise and appreciate success, and offer support to staff during challenging times. It sounds like a good place to work.

    • 55 min
    Episode 11: Suzette Woodward on safety in healthcare.

    Episode 11: Suzette Woodward on safety in healthcare.

    Suzette Woodward has had a distinguished career in healthcare – in the clinical world as a PICU nurse, and then in a number of positions in patient safety, including a director role at the National Patient Safety Agency and as lead for the Sign up to Safety initiative.  In this conversation, Suzette reflects on her career in safety, and discusses opportunities for the future.  We cover a lot of topics, including: how to define safety; what constitutes good leadership; what we mean by culture; how safety-II 'fits' in the wider safety landscape; Vincent and Amalberti's 3-part model of safe systems (ultra-safe / high reliability / ultra-adaptive) and much more.  There are many highlights in this conversation, and there is a clear golden thread of compassion throughout Suzette’s career – she articulates a very clear desire to help others as the main motivation for her work.  Suzette reminds us that the reason we do this work is to help others, and that the envelope of concern includes the staff / colleagues as well as the patients.

    • 1 hr 35 min
    Episode 10: Margaret Moore on coaching in healthcare.

    Episode 10: Margaret Moore on coaching in healthcare.

    Margaret Moore, MBA is the chair and co-founder of the Institute of Coaching: a non-profit organisation at McLean University, which aims to enhance "the integrity and credibility of the field of coaching".  This is a fascinating, wide-ranging conversation in which we discuss a broad scope of topics related to coaching, appreciative inquiry, and positive psychological approaches to our work and lives.  The conversation topics include: the role of coaching in healthcare (for patients and for professionals); the academic rigour behind coaching, and its growing evidence base; reflections on Learning from Excellence / Appreciative Inquiry and how this compares and contrasts with coaching; the elements of psychological capital - Hope Efficacy Resilience Optimism; burnout and wellbeing; and plenty more.
    The book referenced by Margaret in the conversation (Coaching in Medical Education) is available here. 

    • 1 hr 29 min
    Episode 9: Don Berwick on Era 3, community, proximity and listening to youth.

    Episode 9: Don Berwick on Era 3, community, proximity and listening to youth.

    Professor Don Berwick, MD, MPP, FRCP, KBE, is President Emeritus and Senior Fellow at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement (IHI).  This podcast episode is a recording of the live conversation with Don from the penultimate session in the #LfE4 conference, October 2021.  Don speaks about his career, his reflections on his paper about the three eras of healthcare, and what he thinks we can do to make healthcare better before answering some questions posed by the audience.  

    Here are some links to some of the content from the conversation:

    Summary of the Era 3 paper

    The Moral Determinants of Health

    Dr W Edwards Deming's red bead experiment

    • 53 min

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