And What Did We Learn‪?‬ Sarah

It turns out Sarah still remembers how to podcast (for the most part) and is back at it again with a flourish, coming at you with a fantastic and dynamic discussion about the infamous OG Karen and her defective ex-husband: Jon and Kate Gosselin. Thank you so so very much to Molly McAleer for joining this awesome chat session and bringing so many inside scoops to the table. Check out Molly and her fantastic network of shows over at SolidListen.com or over at Twitter/X at @Molls

Everyone please enjoy this truly nostalgic romp of an episode and one heck of a conversation! Kaycee makes for an excellent cohost and a very good sport to put up with my games! Everyone follow @Kayceeracer on Instagram and dig in to this episode for some good old cringeworthy MTV fun!

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Justine (@shorestorepod) joins me to discuss this early 00's treat!!! 

This one is both rough and extremely fascinating; Lifetime does an excellent job with this heavy task, and Sarah has a challenging time fixing all of her audio (don't worry, it's fixed).

Join Sarah and Betsy as they navigate this dynamic episode that covers a lot of traumas (TRIGGER WARNING for drug use, verbal abuse, IV drug use, alcohol, and weed) and the dangerous dynamics of addicts becoming parents and leaning into generational addiction (as well as the dangers of alcohol and speed, for obvious reasons).

From https://intervention-directory.com/ :

Pamela
Age: 36
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Addiction: Alcohol, Speed

Official Synopsis: When Pamela’s mother remarried, Pamela thought she’d finally regained the father figure she’d been missing for most of her life. But it was a short-lived dream as friction between Pamela and her stepfather forced her to leave the home in search of her long-lost father. Adding layers to Pamela’s plight, while living with her biological father she was further traumatized by exposure to his drug addiction. Surrounded by drugs and with no responsible adult to guide her, Pamela quickly turned to a life of partying and drugs. It wasn’t until Pamela had a son that she found purpose and sobriety. But because she had only a vague idea of what a stable family looked like, Pamela found motherhood a struggle and turned back to the one thing in her life that was consistent: alcohol and drugs. Now she’s estranged from her child, and her family fear that without a successful intervention, Pamela’s future is in serious doubt.

What’s Memorable: How nice and accommodating her family is to her and how they really avoid the hard conversations. Like there are zero family fights in this whole episode, that’s unheard of!  Jesse’s focus on ending the multigenerational cycle of addiction & neglect with Pam’s own son seemed to be a super effective angle to use with her. Great follow up, so glad to hear voice healing once she got out of that life.

Interventionist: Jesse Hanson
Date Aired: June 7 2021  (Aired as Intervention Canada Season 5 Episode 5, on Oct 13, 2018)

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This is a fantastic conversation, a full overview with clips, and just a downright great take on abnormal psych. We love you all- please subscribe!!!!!