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Small Law Firms often start from the practice of law and not as a business venture. This ends up causing the growth of the firm to be much longer and more painful than it needs to be. If you started a Law Firm with the intention of increasing your impact, freeing up your time and having all the money you will ever need then the strategies we discuss will be priceless for you. Profit with Law is a show focused on the business of running a law firm as a profitable venture. Packaging and pricing your services, getting clients consistently, growing your staff in a way that feels good to you and implementing systems and technology to set yourself up for success are all discussions you will find here on the show. Moshe Amsel the host of the Profit with Law podcast is not an attorney. He has spent 20 years as an executive in the IT industry before becoming an accountant and business advisor for small businesses. As the owner of a successful accounting firm DreamBuilder Financial and Law Firm Growth coaching organization Profit with Law, Moshe has proven that there are better and different ways for a law firm to do business and be successful. Our mission is to empower all people with wealth creation so that this and future generations can lead a better life. We’d love nothing more than to do this by helping law firm owners on their journey. A law firm is not for practice it’s for profit! 

Profit with Law: Profitable Law Firm Growth Moshe Amsel

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Small Law Firms often start from the practice of law and not as a business venture. This ends up causing the growth of the firm to be much longer and more painful than it needs to be. If you started a Law Firm with the intention of increasing your impact, freeing up your time and having all the money you will ever need then the strategies we discuss will be priceless for you. Profit with Law is a show focused on the business of running a law firm as a profitable venture. Packaging and pricing your services, getting clients consistently, growing your staff in a way that feels good to you and implementing systems and technology to set yourself up for success are all discussions you will find here on the show. Moshe Amsel the host of the Profit with Law podcast is not an attorney. He has spent 20 years as an executive in the IT industry before becoming an accountant and business advisor for small businesses. As the owner of a successful accounting firm DreamBuilder Financial and Law Firm Growth coaching organization Profit with Law, Moshe has proven that there are better and different ways for a law firm to do business and be successful. Our mission is to empower all people with wealth creation so that this and future generations can lead a better life. We’d love nothing more than to do this by helping law firm owners on their journey. A law firm is not for practice it’s for profit! 

    How to Double Your Case Files Without Spending Another Cent on Marketing with Jan Roos - 427

    How to Double Your Case Files Without Spending Another Cent on Marketing with Jan Roos - 427

    Shownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/427.
    In this Law Firm Growth Summit 2019 session replay, Jan Roos, CEO of CaseFuel and author of the book “The Legal Marketing Fastlane” talks about How to Double Your Case Files without Spending Another Cent on Marketing. He talks about why spending more money to have “big engine” marketing gets minimal return on investment, and why legal firms should focus instead on a more lean and more effective marketing process.



    Resources mentioned:
    Registration for the Law Firm Growth Summit 2024 is now open!


    Take the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! 
    Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!
    Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here


    Registration for the Law Firm Growth Summit 2024 is now open!


    CLIO Report from CLIO Conference
    Smith AI
    BombBomb



    Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/


    To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.


    Connect with Moshe on:
    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amsel
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

    • 54 min
    Best of: Women Empowerment and How to Avoid These Two Common Mistakes with Jaimee Hall - 426

    Best of: Women Empowerment and How to Avoid These Two Common Mistakes with Jaimee Hall - 426

    Shownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/426.
    Running a law firm always comes with tough challenges. It is not enough to know you need to make tough decisions; you also need to know how to make correct ones. You’ve got to ask the right questions: How do you enact women empowerment? When should you hire vs when should you implement more technology? What data do you need to look at?
    In this episode, Jaimee Hall joins us to discuss the two most common mistakes of law firm owners: not maximizing their use of technology and not tracking important metrics. She talks about how you can make the right calls that will elevate your law firm. Jaimee also shares the key metrics you should track and the importance of strategic planning. Lastly, she offers insights on women empowerment in the legal industry.
    If you want to gain confidence in making tough decisions that will elevate your law firm, then this episode is for you.



    Resources mentioned:
    Take the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! 
    Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!
    Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here


    Connect with Jamie: LinkedIn | Email
    Legal Back Office website
    Read Jamie’s blog, Why I Love Lawyers (And Why You Should Too), here!
    Track your metrics: Law Perform | firmTRAK
    Time tracking tool: Timeular


    Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/
    To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.


    Connect with Moshe on:
    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amsel
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

    • 50 min
    The Key Drivers Behind a Valuable and Marketable Law Firm with Brooke Lively - 425

    The Key Drivers Behind a Valuable and Marketable Law Firm with Brooke Lively - 425

    Shownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/425.
    If you're feeling overwhelmed by the daunting task of maximizing your law firm's value for potential sale, then you are not alone! As a law firm owner, you may be struggling to delegate responsibilities, cultivate a thriving team, and create a profitable business that's attractive to potential buyers. Instead of feeling confident about the value of your firm, you might feel stuck and unsure where to focus your efforts.
    In this episode of the Profit with Law podcast, Moshe Amsel sits down with Brooke Lively to delve into the critical factors that impact the sellability and value of law firms. Brooke, a financial expert specializing in helping law firms optimize their operations, shares invaluable insights into how understanding the numbers in a law firm can significantly impact its potential sale value. She emphasizes the importance of turning a law firm into a valuable asset by focusing on profitability, cash flow, and ensuring the owner is not the central figure in the business. The conversation delves into the specific factors that potential buyers scrutinize when evaluating a law firm for purchase, emphasizing the significance of financials, marketing, sales and intake, operations, and people. 
    This episode provides a wealth of guidance for law firm owners and aspiring entrepreneurs looking to maximize the value of their firms and attract potential buyers.
    Chapters:
    00:00 Introduction to Brooke Lively
    08:27 Key Factors in Evaluating a Law Firm's Value
    14:36 The Importance of Minimal Owner Involvement
    17:25 Importance of Firm Culture and Hiring Processes
    18:47 Firm Capacity and Billing Goals
    21:27 Technology Adoption and Firm Value
    23:52 Overcoming Overwhelm
    30:07 Helping Employees Find Success
    40:06 People are Assets
    44:08 Preparing a Business for Sale



    Resources mentioned:
    Take the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! 
    Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!
    Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here


    Traction: Get a Grip on Your Business by Gino Wickman
    Rocket Fuel: The One Essential Combination That Will Get You More of What You Want from Your Business by Gino Wickman and Mark C. Winters


    Connect with Brooke Lively: LinkedIn
    Exit On Top: Sell Your Law Firm to the Right Person at the Right Time for the Right Price by Brooke Lively
    CathCap


    Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/


    To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.


    Connect with Moshe on:
    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amsel
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

    • 50 min
    Best Of: Building the 7 Figure Attorney Mindset and Reality with Craig Goldenfarb - 424

    Best Of: Building the 7 Figure Attorney Mindset and Reality with Craig Goldenfarb - 424

    Shownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/424.
    It's our podcast's fifth anniversary, and we're commemorating the occasion by revisiting our most popular episode of all time! Join us as we relive the conversation, knowledge and insights that made it a standout among our listeners.
    Every year, law schools produce legal practitioners of great minds and integrity. However, the training and education they receive have little to do with business development. As a result, law entrepreneurs need to learn the fundamentals of growing a business from scratch —  and the first step is shifting from having a lawyer mindset to being a business owner. 
    In this episode, Craig Goldenfarb lays out the basic groundwork for an enduring and successful business. He discusses with Moshe Amsel the importance of growing and scaling your business as well as having a positive work culture.
    If you want to learn how you can successfully turn your profession into a successful business, this episode is for you!




    Resources mentioned:
    Take the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! 
    Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!
    Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here


    Traction: Get a Grip on Your Business by Gino Wickman 
    Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck
    Tribe Of Mentors: Short Life Advice from the Best in the World by Timothy Ferriss
    The 5 Languages of Appreciation in the Workplace by Gary Chapman and Paul White
    The Dream Manager by Matthew Kelly


    Connect with Craig Goldenfarb: LinkedIn
    7 Figure Attorney Summit: Website | Register Now
    Atticus Personal Injury Academy™
    Atticus Advantage - Find more coaching programs to build your law firm



    Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/


    To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.


    Connect with Moshe on:
    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amsel
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

    • 42 min
    Boost Client Acquisition: 5 Keys to Marketing Success for Law Firms with Travis Hoechlin - 423

    Boost Client Acquisition: 5 Keys to Marketing Success for Law Firms with Travis Hoechlin - 423

    Shownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/423.
    If you're feeling frustrated by spending money on marketing campaigns and not seeing a substantial return on investment, then you are not alone! Many small law firm owners struggle with this, feeling like they're throwing money at the wall and hoping something sticks. It's time to stop the cycle of disappointment and start seeing real results from your marketing efforts.


    In this episode of Profit with Law, Travis Hoechlin, CEO of Rise Up Media, joins Moshe Amsel to share easy marketing strategies that can make a big difference for small law firm owners. Travis draws from over a decade of experience in helping law firms grow and customize their marketing strategies to boost client generation and higher revenue. Moshe and Travis emphasize the significance of investing in marketing, hiring more attorneys for increased revenue, and converting referrals into clients. Travis also highlights the value of leveraging technology, such as text messaging, to improve client communication. They provide practical insights on Google's local service ads, pay-per-click marketing, and the importance of prompt call answering and gathering positive Google reviews. 


    With Travis's expertise and actionable tips on transitioning from relying on referrals to creating a more predictable stream of clients, this episode offers valuable strategies for law firm owners wanting to improve their marketing strategy and generate a consistent stream of clients.


    Chapters:
    [00:00] Introduction to Travis Hoechlin
    [07:52] Limited Budget Marketing
    [12:33] Common Marketing Sins on Law Firm Websites
    [15:53] The Importance of Choosing a Niche
    [18:31] Importance of Answering Calls
    [30:27] Transitioning from Referrals to Marketing
    [35:02] Leveraging Google Reviews for LSAs
    [38:42] Judging Marketing Campaign Performance




    Resources mentioned:


    Take the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! 
    Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!
    Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here


    Episode 29 - Why Choosing a Niche Will Skyrocket Your Firm
    Episode 49 - Getting Over 1,000 Google Reviews with Sam Mollaei
    Episode 69 - How Important Is A Client Photo When Posting a Review Live Q&A
    Episode 235 - Dealing With Negative Reviews


    Connect with Travis Hoechlin: 714-261-0185 | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X


    Rize Up Media
    Travis’ Phone Number: 714-261-0185


    2019 Clio Trends Report
    Smith AI
    Juvo leads

    • 44 min
    Retaining Clients and Employees: The 100-Day Secret to Long-Term Success with Joey Coleman - 422

    Retaining Clients and Employees: The 100-Day Secret to Long-Term Success with Joey Coleman - 422

    Shownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/0422.


    Want to know how to keep your clients and employees loyal for the long haul, resulting in business growth that lasts?
    In this episode of Profit with Law, guest Joey Coleman, a former attorney turned customer retention expert, shares invaluable insights on client and employee retention. With his unique blend of legal and business expertise, Joey emphasizes the critical role of the first 100 days in shaping long-term client relationships. He highlights the significance of creating a positive client experience early on to ensure long-term retention and potential referrals. Joey's practical insights and evidence-based approach offer valuable guidance for law firm owners seeking to improve client retention and create exceptional customer experiences in the legal industry.
    If you're looking to enhance client and employee retention, Joey's expertise and actionable tips make this episode a must-listen for law firm owners striving for long-term business success.


    Chapters:
    [00:00] Introduction to Joey Coleman
    [08:00] Importance of First 100 Days
    [12:39] Addressing Buyer's Remorse
    [18:24] Solutions for Time Management
    [22:21] Delegate by Elevating Team Status
    [26:11] Effective Client Communication
    [32:11] The Power of Infographics in Client Communication
    [34:53] Employee Retention and Talent Development
    [40:10] Main Drivers of Employee Satisfaction
    [46:27] Incentivizing Process Improvement
    [54:59] Taking Action for Continuous Growth


    Resources mentioned:


    Take the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! 
    Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!
    Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program here


    Connect with Joey Coleman: Website | Facebook | LinkedIn


    Never Lose a Customer Again by Joey Coleman
    Never Lose an Employee Again by Joey Coleman


    Joey Coleman Website



    Join our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/


    To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.


    Connect with Moshe on:
    Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amsel
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/

    • 58 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
81 Ratings

81 Ratings

jasoncercone ,

Solid Podcast

Moshe and his guests do a great job covering subjects that will help law firms grow and thrive. I’m happy I had the opportunity to join in the fun and contribute some insights about podcasting to the show. Highly recommend you click the play button today!

GinaDu ,

Brilliant

Just listened to an episode with Molly McGrath. We are experts in similar areas and yet it was so great to hear what she had to offer around working in powerful ways with your staff! She was a wealth of knowledge.

Travis Hoechlin ,

Great Podcast!

I had a great time on the podcast. Moshe very nice guy and very knowledgeable about marketing and growing a law firm. I appreciate the time.

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