Collaboratory Maya Haviland & Nicole Deen

How can we use theatre to create spaces for authentic dialogue, empathy and seeing from new perspectives? Spaces where people can play together, create together and take action on issues of personal and social importance? Find out in this episode of Collaboratory Conversations, where we bring you an edited interview with Canberra-based theatre company, Rebus Theatre. Speaking with Robin Davidson and Ali Clinch, we explore:




How Rebus use a variety of applied theatre methods, including Forum Theatre and Playback Theatre, to influence social change and why they can be so effective at helping to change mindsets, attitudes and ultimately behaviours, of audience members



How using applied theatre methods can foster spaces where people feel seen, heard and understood, which then can then lead to more authentic co-creation



The intentional practices and mindsets Rebus use to scaffold people's participation, and what difference that makes to both the process and outcomes of their shows






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Resources



Forum Theatre, developed by Brazilian theatre director Agosto Boal, is a form of applied theatre in which audience members are active participants in how the story is played out.



Playback Theatre is another form of applied theatre in which audience members tell stories from their own lives and watch as actors and musicians enact them in the show.



Access all areas is Rebus' Workplace Accessibility and Inclusion Training program that uses Forum Theatre to help workplaces, communities and service providers feel more equipped and at ease in assisting customers, employees and clients with disability.



Flair - The Rebus program in which people with disability and lived experience of mental ill health devise an original performance. The Beauty Thief was the 2021 show that was produced as part of this program.



What if Scientists Ruled the World? was a Rebus production in 2021 that used the Forum Theatre method to engage the audience in an intriguing alternate world where science just might save humanity, or destroy it, depending on how it is used. Watch the recording of the this interactive show here.







Guests




Robin is the founding and Artistic Director of Rebus Theatre and Workplace Training, a Canberra-based mixed ability theatre for social change company. He is also an actor, clown, director, teacher and writer.  



You can find Robin online on Rebus Theatre website





Ali Clinch is an award-winning practitioner in Applied Theatre, the application of performing arts for social change and the Artistic Director for ‘Acting With Ali'. 



You can find Ali online on Acting With Ali website




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Collaboratory is written, edited and produced by Maya Haviland with production and editorial assistance from Nicole Deen. Audio engineering by Nick McCorriston. Music made especially for us by Seprock. Additional research and production support by Yichen Li.



Collaboratory is produced on the lands of the Ngunnawal, Ngunawal and Ngambri people.We pay our respects, an ongoing gratitude to the custodian's past present and future of the lands on which we work and of the knowledges from which we learn.





Collaboratory is a production of the Scaffolding Cultural Co-creativity Project hosted by the Centre for Heritage and Museum Studies in the College of Arts and Social Sciences at the Australian National University funding is generously provided by the Australian National University Translational Fellowship Scheme.

The word ‘governance’ can take on many different meanings and be used in various contexts, whether that be corporate, organisational or cultural. In this episode, we give particular attention to First Nations perspectives of cultural governance and discuss how the concept of cultural governance, whilst sometimes misunderstood, is one that can support collaboration across difference. Our guests Wayne Barker, Doyen Radcliffe, Sharon Babyack and David Lilley explore topics including:




Their understanding of cultural governance and the governance structures of the organisations that they work at – the Kimberley Aboriginal Law and Culture Centre (KALACC), Collaboration for Impact and Community First Development



The idea of ‘right way governance’ which involves understanding and respecting the structures and decision-making processes within First Nations communities in addition to the idea of ‘bridging governance’ – where First Nation governance practices intersect with Western governance requirements.



How ‘good’ cultural governance is malleable and recognises the importance of establishing structures and processes which help us build and maintain trusting relationships



The skills that can help with navigating governance in practice such as emotional intelligence and deep listening.






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Resources



Kimberley Aboriginal Law and Cultural Centre: 'KALACC Cultural Governance Evaluation 2016' Shares information about cultural governance more broadly as well as how KALACC navigated cultural governance during the repatriation of ceremonial objects to Ardyaloon community.



Community First Development: 'Good Governance Practice leads to Good Relationships: Final report' June 2021. Presents findings and lessons learnt from their Participatory Action Research Project, with a focus on Governance.



Community First Development: 'Good Governance Practice leads to Good Relationships: First report' March 2020. Shares the Action Research design, early findings and first four case studies.



The Hive: 'Insights Paper - Community Development' June 2022. Outlines 'Together in 2770's Collective approach to community development and mobilisation, including their local governance approach.





Guests




Wayne Barker is the Festival and Cultural Events Coordinator at the Kimberly Aboriginal Law and Cultural Centre (KALACC), an activist, musician, film maker and the Co-Director of the Stompem Ground Festival.  KALACC's cultural maintenance mission is supporting the traditional cultural practices of the 30 Aboriginal language groups of the Kimberley Region, WA 



You can find Wayne online at KALACC website| KALACC Facebook | LinkedIn 





Doyen Radcliffe is a Yamatji Naaguja Wajarri man from the Midwest Region of Western Australia and a Regional Manager with Community First Development based in Perth, WA. He is a community minded individual with a passion for empowering Indigenous communities to reach their real potential to improve quality of life, health, social and economic wellbeing, and inclusion within Australian society. Doyen is also director to the Australian Evaluation Society and a director of two community based Indigenous corporations – Naaguja Warangkarri Aboriginal Corporation and Marr Koodjal Aboriginal Corporation. 



You can find Doyen online at Community First Development website | LinkedIn | Research Gate 





Sharon Babyack is the General Manager Impact and Strategy at Community First Development, a First Nations Community Development and Research Organisation. Sharon is passionate about promoting self-determination for First Nations people and considers her role as one of continual learning.  



You can find Sharon online at Community First Development website | LinkedIn | Twitter 

















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What does a new moon have to do with conservation, community, co-creativity and music? We answer this interesting and exciting question in this special episode of Collaboratory Conversations featuring Broome-based musician and collaborative artist, Jaime Jackett. Topics explored include:




The creation and collaborative process behind "The Shorebird Quest", a musical theatre show which celebrates the migratory shorebirds of Roebuck Bay



Jaime’s co-created musical practice, passion for the power of singing and the recent release of her song “Cradle to Caves”, written and performed in collaboration with her band, Belle Miners, and visitors to a number of Tasmanian national parks



The importance of having an open-mind and being flexible when approaching or engaging in a co-creative endeavour






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Resources



The Shorebird Quest - Songs from the Original Broome Musical. Composed by Jaime Jackett and Hayden Kuhtze on Bandcamp: https://shorebirdquest.bandcamp.com/album/the-shorebird-quest-songs-from-the-original-broome-musical



Article on The Shorebird Quest: https://nit.com.au/30-04-2023/5784/thousands-expected-to-flock-to-brooms-beach-for-larger-than-life-shorebirds



Broome Bird Observatory: http://www.broomebirdobservatory.com/



Belle Miners Website: https://belleminers.com/



Belle Miners Social Media: @belleminers





Guests




Jaime Jackett is a Canadian-Australian musician and part of the internationally collaborative folk-pop trio Belle Miners. The band has thrived despite the seemingly impossible distance, touring 6 countries in Europe, Canada and Australia in 2018. 



You can find Jaime online at Jaime's Website | Instagram | YouTube 




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Collaboratory is written, edited and produced by Maya Haviland with production and editorial assistance from Nicole Deen. Audio engineering by Nick McCorriston. Music made especially for us by Seprock. Additional research and production support by Yichen Li.



Collaboratory is produced on the lands of the Ngunnawal, Ngunawal and Ngambri  people. We pay our respects, an ongoing gratitude to the custodian's past present and future of the lands on which we work and of the knowledges from which we learn.







Collaboratory is a production of the Scaffolding Cultural Co-creativity Project hosted by the Centre for Heritage and Museum Studies in the College of Arts and Social Sciences at the Australian National University funding is generously provided by the Australian National University Translational Fellowship Scheme.

Reflecting on the values, mindsets and attitudes that we bring to our work is critical for fostering co-creativity. Our guests Dimitrios Papalexis and Aruna Venkatachalam, who work within the community development arts and corporate sectors, share insights about what guides their work and how they have put these values into practice. Topics explored include:




How Dimitrios and Aruna’s unique life experiences, cultural influences and exposure to different worldviews have shaped their values and how they work



Useful frameworks and tools for fostering co-creativity and identifying the strengths of a community or organisation, such as asset-based community development (ABCD) and ‘jugaad’, a strengths-based approach



The value of creating safe spaces which facilitate collaboration and trusting relationships and how the cultures of the organisations and systems we work in can greatly influence how we work and interact with others, and



The importance of looking within and possibly reconsidering our mindsets and values to better enable us to listen actively to others, build on strengths and be comfortable in the unknown






Transcript



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Resources



Young Change Agents ‘Lighting the Spark’ report: https://youngchangeagents.com/research (to request access) 



ABC news article about Lighting the Spark program in Bundaberg:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-10/first-nations-entrepreneur-program-lighting-the-spark/101301144 



Design Thinking: Introduction from IDEO  https://designthinking.ideo.com/ 



The Circle Way: Pocket Guide https://www.thecircleway.net/booklets 



Podcast (teaser) about the Refugee Podcasting Initiative: https://anchor.fm/dimitrios-papalexis/episodes/Refugee-Settlement-Journeys---Teaser-evba78   



Eight Aboriginal Ways of Learning – Framework and resources: https://www.8ways.online/  



The Circle Way website and resources:  https://www.thecircleway.net/  



Art of Hosting website and resources: https://artofhosting.org/ 



Ethical storytelling: 7 Steps to Ethical Storytelling (G.R.E.A.T) https://gettingattention.org/ethical-storytelling/ 





Guests




Dimitrios Papalexis is the founder of Soulgen, a social enterprise consultancy specializing in asset-based community development, storytelling and arts for social impact. He has a background in linguistics, communication, psychology and community development. 



You can find Dimitrios online on SoulGen website | Facebook | YouTube | Instagram 





Aruna Venkatachalam is the General Manager, Partnerships and International at Young Change Agents. She has worked in international community development, commercial leadership development and social enterprise for 15 years. Aruna spent four years in India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka where she capacity-built local community organisations, social entrepreneurs, STEM professionals and students by providing training, frameworks, mentorship and connections in design thinking and best-practice community development. 



You can find Aruna online at Young Change Agents website | LinkedIn 




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Collaboratory is written, edited and produced by Maya Haviland with production and editorial assistance from Nicole Deen. Audio engineering by Nick McCorriston. Music made especially for us by Seprock. Additional research and production support by Yichen Li.



Collaboratory is produced on the lands of the Ngunnawal, Ngunawal and Ngambri  people. We pay our respects, an ongoing gratitude to the custodian's past present and future of the lands on which we work and

Thank you for listening to and engaging with the Collaboratory podcast. We wanted to let you know that we will be taking a break to do some back-end production work and will be back with new episodes from April 2023. In the meantime, check out episodes that you may have missed, and please provide us with your feedback.



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Resources



Catch up on past episodes of Collaboratory:




Laying the Foundations for Co-Creation



What is the Co?



Intellectual Property and Agreement: A Conversation with Dr Diana James



Building Trusting Relationships



A Conversation with Jenni Savigny and Stephen Corey: Digital Storytelling



Symbiosis as Co-Creativity



Co-Created Research: A Conversation with Kaira Zoe Cañete



Skills for Co-Creative Relationships



Community Engagement and Consent: A Conversation with Azure Hermes



Navigating Positionality and Power



Music, Co-Creativity and Cultures: A Conversation with Kim Cunio




Check out blog posts written by the hosts and guests of Collaboratory here.





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Collaboratory is written, edited and produced by Maya Haviland with production and editorial assistance from Nicole Deen. Audio engineering by Nick McCorriston. Music made especially for us by Seprock. Additional research and production support by Yichen Li.



Collaboratory is produced on the lands of the Ngunnawal, Ngunawal and Ngambri  people. We pay our respects, an ongoing gratitude to the custodian's past present and future of the lands on which we work and of the knowledges from which we learn.







Collaboratory is a production of the Scaffolding Cultural Co-creativity Project hosted by the Centre for Heritage and Museum Studies in the College of Arts and Social Sciences at the Australian National University funding is generously provided by the Australian National University Translational Fellowship Scheme.

Music provides a fascinating example of co-creativity in action – whether that be through the coming together of instruments and performers, the space in which the music is played, or the process of audience members listening to music. Musician and academic, Kim Cunio, reflects on the co-creative musical projects that he has been involved with and shares insights into the responsibilities that different cultural roles and relationships require of us. Topics explored include:




Embracing the complexities of being positioned as the ‘other’ when engaging in non-traditional research



How Kim’s diverse cultural background combined with his creative and technical skills influences his approach to musical practice



The process of seeking cultural authority to work with particular knowledges and traditions



The challenges of transferring a co-creative musical approach into organisational and institutional settings such as universities



How music can help us understand what co-creation is and how it happens






Transcript



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Resources



Dead Sea Scrolls Project: https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/handle/1885/140980?mode=full and https://www.discogs.com/release/7779456-Kim-Cunio-Heather-Lee-Music-Of-the-Dead-Sea-Scrolls



Gyuto Monks Project: https://newearthrecords.bandcamp.com/album/beyond-karma



Indigenous Collaborations and the Creative Academy - Article by Kim Cunio, Chris Sainsbury and Frank Milward:  https://nitro.edu.au/articles/2022/10/14/indigenous-collaborations-and-the-creative-academy-it-is-never-too-late-is-it



The Neuroscience of Music and the Concept of 'Lull': Liane Gabora | Sue Woolfe





Guests




Kim Cunio is the Head of the School of Music at the Australian National University (ANU), performer, researcher, and Grammy long listed composer. He writes for the Deans and Directors of the Creative Arts, the Crawford Centre for Public Policy at the ANU and hosts a regular segment on ABC Radio to discuss music and the larger world. 



You can find Kim online on ANU Researchers | Apple Music | Spotify 




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Collaboratory is written, edited and produced by Maya Haviland with production and editorial assistance from Nicole Deen. Audio engineering by Nick McCorriston. Music made especially for us by Seprock. Additional research and production support by Yichen Li.



Collaboratory is produced on the lands of the Ngunnawal, Ngunawal and Ngambri  people. We pay our respects, an ongoing gratitude to the custodian's past present and future of the lands on which we work and of the knowledges from which we learn.







Collaboratory is a production of the Scaffolding Cultural Co-creativity Project hosted by the Centre for Heritage and Museum Studies in the College of Arts and Social Sciences at the Australian National University funding is generously provided by the Australian National University Translational Fellowship Scheme.