Looking Out - The Podcast Drew Smith & Joe Simpson

Five months ago, we recorded our most incendiary episode yet. In The EV Inferno, we wondered whether EV sales were about to fall off a cliff, or whether we’d just hit a bump in the road.
With the benefit of time, the picture’s becoming a little clearer, if no cleaner.
In this episode, we look at how the EV market might be fracturing between the EU, the US, and China, and what that means for legacy OEMs and startups, particularly when it comes to plug-in hybrids.

Of course, we can’t escape the travails at Tesla, and we look at the strengths that old-school car makers are bringing to the EV market as companies like Fisker stumble and fall.

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Drew -   https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewpasmith/
Joe - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-simpson-92863a2/

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⏰ Time stamps
00:00 Pre-roll
00:55 Intro
04:11 The U.S. Market View
08:10 Tesla cancels the $25k czar
19:03 The return of the hybridc
24:17 OEMs are failing to effectively educate consumers
32:14 Is China running a different race?
33:30 The risk to consumers of EV startups failing
39:49 We were wrong about BMW's EV strategy 
52:01 Outro
52:13 Post-roll

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Other platforms and streaming - https://podcast.lookingout.io


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Sibilio. Bravo. Stratos. Magnum. And Shamal. Joe and Drew celebrate Gandini’s life and his greatest hits.

We also cover the BMW Vision Neue Klasse X, Euro NCAP’s physical button mandate, and a conversation about great gas station meals leads to us pondering the future of the road stop.

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https://automobility.substack.com

🤝 Connect with us on LinkedIn
Drew - https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewpasmith/
Joe - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-s-92863a2/

📸 Follow us on Instagram
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⏰ Time stamps
00:00 Pre-roll 
00:30 Intro
01:39 Joe's apology
02:59 The death of Marcello Gandini, and Gandini's Top Trumps
19:53 BMW's Neue Klasse X
29:28 Euro NCAP's knob incentive
41:59 Our favourite gas station meals (and the future of the gas station)_
52:08 Outro

🎧 Listen and subscribe to the podcast
Apple -  https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/looking-out-the-podcast/id1636199763
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0YschSrj672jQOGt3R5eE5?si=b1fb76f852244649
Other platforms and streaming - https://podcast.lookingout.io
That's it for this episode! Thanks for listening.

If you like what you hear, please leave a review for us on your favourite podcasting platform. It helps other folk like you find us!

And you can sign up for Looking Out - The Newsletter, the sidekick to our podcast, here: automobility.substack.com

The death of the desirable hatchback has been exaggerated. In the space of two weeks, we've been gifted the new Renault R5 and the Rivian R3 and R3X. We discuss their design, and what they mean for their respective manufacturers.

Meanwhile, the death of the Apple Car is now (almost definitely) certain and we explore why Apple finally caved.

And we also discuss what's happening to design in the C-Suite, and whether maybe our time at the big table is up, and whether that's actually a bad thing.

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🤝 Connect with us on LinkedIn
Drew - https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewpasmith/
Joe - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-s-92863a2/

🔗 Links
 @apolaine interviews Peter Merholz about the state of the design nation: https://www.youtube.com/live/XLQ3hnbdKcM?si=G-SsdVC4fv7XqAPk

Robert Fabricant - The big design freak-out: A generation of design leaders grapple with their future: https://www.fastcompany.com/91027996/the-big-design-freak-out-a-generation-of-design-leaders-grapple-with-their-future

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⏰ Time stamps
00:00 Pre-roll
01:58 How do we stay positive?
09:20 The Death of Project Titan
27:53 Rivian's new products!
40:13 The Reanult R5
49:48 The big design freak-out
01:01:52 The need for a new Baccara
01:04:45 Outro

🎧 Listen and subscribe to the podcast
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Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/0YschSrj672jQOGt3R5eE5
Other platforms and streaming - https://podcast.lookingout.io
That's it for this episode! Thanks for listening.

If you like what you hear, please leave a review for us on your favourite podcasting platform. It helps other folk like you find us!

And you can sign up for Looking Out - The Newsletter, the sidekick to our podcast, here: automobility.substack.com

Tesla Autopilot. Hyundai Highway Driving Assist 2. GM SuperCruise. Oh, and a Waymo robotaxi. This episode has it all. 

Joe and Drew talk about their experiences of each and ask the crucial question: what's it all for?

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⬇️ Download Drew's free trend report from CES 2024: https://www.studiophro.com/ces-2024-report-download-form

🤝 Connect with us on LinkedIn
Drew -   https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewpasmith/
Joe - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-simpson-92863a2/

🔗 Links
Dude, where's my self-driving car - the latest from The Verge: https://www.theverge.com/24065447/self-driving-car-autonomous-tesla-gm-baidu
A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco: https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/11/24069251/waymo-driverless-taxi-fire-vandalized-video-san-francisco-china-town

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That's it for this episode! Thanks for listening.

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And you can sign up for Looking Out - The Newsletter, the sidekick to our podcast, here: automobility.substack.com

For over a decade now, the Consumer Electronics Show has also been one of the most significant automotive shows in the world.

In January 2024, after the year in which generative AI changed everything, Drew’s hopes were high for a few radical new takes on what the car might become when fused with artificial intelligence.

What he found was lipstick on a pig.

Join Joe and Drew as they take a look at the lowlights from the world’s largest trade show, and, yes, find some cause for joy.
That's it for this episode! Thanks for listening.

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And you can sign up for Looking Out - The Newsletter, the sidekick to our podcast, here: automobility.substack.com

Back in 2019, Drew and Joe disagreed on what the Tesla Cybertruck represented. Has anything changed in the past four years?

In this episode, Drew and Joe take a look at what the most polarising car in living memory means as a piece of technology, as a piece of design, and as a cultural artefact.
That's it for this episode! Thanks for listening.

If you like what you hear, please leave a review for us on your favourite podcasting platform. It helps other folk like you find us!

And you can sign up for Looking Out - The Newsletter, the sidekick to our podcast, here: automobility.substack.com