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Ah, wedded bliss! The charming melodies of your partner chewing, every dirty dish stacked to perfection, passionate dialogue that is definitely NOT yelling! Real-life couple, Emily & Nathan explore the mirth and the myths of long term relationships.

Mess Is More Nathan & Emily

    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 24 Ratings

Ah, wedded bliss! The charming melodies of your partner chewing, every dirty dish stacked to perfection, passionate dialogue that is definitely NOT yelling! Real-life couple, Emily & Nathan explore the mirth and the myths of long term relationships.

    Spousonomics: Pt. 2 (The Everything Bagel of Grievances)

    Spousonomics: Pt. 2 (The Everything Bagel of Grievances)

    We've often said that marriage is a business, but according to the book, Spousonomics, by Paula Szuchman & Jenny Anderson, it's really a lot more like the economy...complicated.

    Get the book here.

    This amazing book is so chock full of great marriage advice we read it twice and had to split it into 2 parts!

    If you grew up believing you should never go to bed angry, that's just "Loss Aversion".
    Found yourself talking about how you should have more sex, but can't seem to get around to it? That's just a good old fashioned case of "Supply and Demand".

    Turns out that a laissez faire attitude is great for capitalism, but not so much for a relationship.

    In Part2, we dive into the last 4 economic principles that can make your marriage bubble burst:

    Trade-Offs
    Asymmetric Information
    Intertemporal Choice
    Bubbles

    Then we reveal some of the strategies that can help bring you back from full on market meltdown.

    At the end of the day, when 1/2 of marriages fail, having a little insurance on one of life's biggest investment is smart move!

    Find us on Facebook (@MessyMarriagePodcast), Instagram (@AMessyMarriagePodcast)
    Have a question or an idea for an episode? Email us at lessnotperfect@gmail.com

    • 1 hr 1 min
    Spousonomics: Pt. 1

    Spousonomics: Pt. 1

    We've often said that marriage is a business, but according to the book, Spousonomics, by Paula Szuchman & Jenny Anderson, it's really a lot more like the economy...complicated.

    Get the book here.

    This amazing book is so chock full of great marriage advice we read it twice and had to split it into 2 parts!

    If you grew up believing you should never go to bed angry, that's just "Loss Aversion".
    Found yourself talking about how you should have more sex, but can't seem to get around to it? That's just a good old fashioned case of "Supply and Demand".

    Turns out that a laissez faire attitude is great for capitalism, but not so much for a relationship.

    We dive into the first 5 economic principles that can make your marriage bubble burst:

    Division of Labor
    Loss Aversion
    Supply and Demand
    Moral Hazard
    Incentives

    Then we reveal some of the strategies that can help bring you back from full on market meltdown.

    At the end of the day, when 1/2 of marriages fail, having a little insurance on one of life's biggest investment is smart move!

    Great News! Our benefit concert, Mess Is More: The Musical has been rescheduled! All your favorite hot marriage content...but with songs!

    All the proceeds will benefit the amazing Creede Repertory Theatre, our creative home away from home.

    Get your tickets for August 12,  2022 @ 7 PM at https://creederep.org/show/special-events-2022/
    If you can't come, please consider a donation to Creede Rep, to support live theatre and their incredible education programs at https://creederep.org/giving/ways-to-give/
    We hope to see you in Creede, CO for Mess Is More: The Musical.
    You definitely don't want to Miss This Mess!

    Find us on Facebook (@MessyMarriagePodcast), Instagram (@AMessyMarriagePodcast)
    Have a question or an idea for an episode? Email us at lessnotperfect@gmail.com

    • 1 hr 22 min
    Deja Vu, How 'Bout You?

    Deja Vu, How 'Bout You?

    Can we be done with COVID yet? After a week, where our concert was cancelled just as family arrived in town to see it, all of our friends got sick, Nola turned 1 year old, and Emily's work closed for 10 days, we admittedly felt a little 2020 PTSD.

    We decided to check in with each other, and dig into how we're feeling...hint...it's not great.

    We discuss dealing with past trauma, grieving the loss of our former selves in a way that we're still trying to wrap our head around after a pandemic/baby one two punch.

    Nate discusses how feeling defeated, led him to defy airport employees because life has been so out of control lately.

    At the end of the day, we are two tired people, who were feeling particularly downtrodden, and just hit record to show up as authentically messy as we could for 80 minutes.

    So while BA.5 tears across the country, and you find yourself having Deja Vu of March 2020 all over again, join us in solidarity.

    Great News! Our benefit concert, Mess Is More: The Musical has been rescheduled! All your favorite hot marriage content...but with songs!

    All the proceeds will benefit the amazing Creede Repertory Theatre, our creative home away from home.

    Get your tickets for August 12,  2022 @ 7 PM at https://creederep.org/show/special-events-2022/
    If you can't come, please consider a donation to Creede Rep, to support live theatre and their incredible education programs at https://creederep.org/giving/ways-to-give/
    We hope to see you in Creede, CO for Mess Is More: The Musical.
    You definitely don't want to Miss This Mess!

    Find us on Facebook (@MessyMarriagePodcast), Instagram (@AMessyMarriagePodcast)
    Have a question or an idea for an episode? Email us at lessnotperfect@gmail.com

    • 1 hr 20 min
    Marry Your Best Friend: An Interview With Christy Brandt & John Gary Brown

    Marry Your Best Friend: An Interview With Christy Brandt & John Gary Brown

    In our 11 years of marriage we have learned a lot about what make a marriage tick, but in so many unforeseen ways we are mere novices.

    With that in mind, we are thrilled to have our first guests on Mess Is More.

    This week, we sit down with our dear friends, Christy Brandt and John Gary Brown. They have been married for over 40 years, and together for 50. They share some wonderful stories about what it takes to get messy over the long haul. We could have talked with them for hours, because their insight is poignant, touching, and a goddamn delight.

    As longtime company members at Creede Repertory Theatre, they have some amazing insight into what it take to not only stick it out for the long haul, but how to make a fulfilling life in the arts, where both are able to find their joy in their artistic endeavors.

    Listen now, to learn about marrying your best friend, and what it means to break the script about what a traditional marriage should look like.

    This episode is not to be missed.

    Great News! We're performing a benefit concert for one night only called Mess Is More: The Musical. All your favorite hot marriage content...but with songs.

    All the proceeds will benefit the amazing Creede Repertory Theatre, our creative home away from home.

    Get your tickets for July 19, 2022 @ 7 PM at https://creederep.org/show/special-events-2022/
    If you can't come, please consider a donation to Creede Rep, to support live theatre and their incredible education programs at https://creederep.org/giving/ways-to-give/
    We hope to see you in Creede, CO for Mess Is More: The Musical.
    You definitely don't want to Miss This Mess!

    Find us on Facebook (@MessyMarriagePodcast), Instagram (@AMessyMarriagePodcast)
    Have a question or an idea for an episode? Email us at lessnotperfect@gmail.com

    • 1 hr 14 min
    Family Leave: AmeriCAN...but AmeriWON'T

    Family Leave: AmeriCAN...but AmeriWON'T

    Happy 4th of July???

    After the overturning or Roe vs. Wade a couple weeks ago, it's even more critical that family care is addressed by our country. Being a new parent is a huge endeavor, and the USA is one of the only wealthy nations that doesn't have national paid leave.

    We have been fortunate to have 3 great companies step up to provide family support in amazing ways.  We want to shout out and hear about the organizations that are helping fill the void, that so far our country has refused to fill.

    Check out these 3 Great companies on instagram
    Creede Repertory Theatre - @creederep
    Curriculum Associates - @curriculum_associates
    Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra - @indy_symphony

    Check out the articles from the episode here:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2022/06/us-paid-parental-leave-child-welfare-tax-credit/661276/

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/upshot/paid-leave-democrats.html

    Great News! We're performing a benefit concert for one night only called Mess Is More: The Musical. All your favorite hot marriage content...but with songs.

    All the proceeds will benefit the amazing Creede Repertory Theatre, our creative home away from home.

    Get your tickets for July 19, 2022 @ 7 PM at https://creederep.org/show/special-events-2022/
    If you can't come, please consider a donation to Creede Rep, to support live theatre and their incredible education programs at https://creederep.org/giving/ways-to-give/
    We hope to see you in Creede, CO for Mess Is More: The Musical.
    You definitely don't want to Miss This Mess!

    Find us on Facebook (@MessyMarriagePodcast), Instagram (@AMessyMarriagePodcast)
    Have a question or an idea for an episode? Email us at lessnotperfect@gmail.com

    • 43 min
    The D Word

    The D Word

    This week, we dive into The D Word; one of the scariest words you can utter in a marriage.

    We break down 8 common signs of divorce and reflect on how we recognized these red flags later than we would have liked.

    But after standing on the edge of marital oblivion, we found that living in fear of divorce was not nearly as helpful as having a healthy respect for it.

    That healthy respect is part of what keeps a marriage in the moment, looking out for trouble on the horizon, and a relationship built on open communication.

    Read the article here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/better-divorce/202108/8-signs-partner-may-want-divorce

    Great News! We're performing a benefit concert for one night only called Mess Is More: The Musical. All your favorite hot marriage content...but with songs.

    All the proceeds will benefit the amazing Creede Repertory Theatre, our creative home away from home.

    Get your tickets for July 19, 2022 @ 7 PM at https://creederep.org/show/special-events-2022/
    If you can't come, please consider a donation to Creede Rep, to support live theatre and their incredible education programs at https://creederep.org/giving/ways-to-give/
    We hope to see you in Creede, CO for Mess Is More: The Musical.
    You definitely don't want to Miss This Mess!

    Find us on Facebook (@MessyMarriagePodcast), Instagram (@AMessyMarriagePodcast)
    Have a question or an idea for an episode? Email us at lessnotperfect@gmail.com

    • 1 hr 9 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
24 Ratings

24 Ratings

disciplesofchandler ,

Doing the Work

I was on the road for like 10 hours today, and so I binged all 9 episodes. What an amazing journey! Emily and Nate approach their relationship with compassion, grace, humor, forgiveness and understanding. But it’s all because of the work they’ve put in that makes it so gratifying. I certainly learned a lot about my own shortcomings in my most recent relationship. I look forward to sharing in their journey moving forward.

Sneedskier ,

Breaking Dishes

LOVED this episode and LOVE these two people! They haven’t been married for 50 years but they have 50 years worth of insight, thoughts and ideas about marriage.

KateBerrymin ,

Chemistry

Makes me want to hang out with them on a socially distanced porch with a mimosa and talk about marriage and relationships.

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