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Warfare of Art and Law Podcast sparks conversation about the intriguing – and sometimes infuriating – stories that arise in the worlds of art and law with artist and attorney Stephanie Drawdy. 

Warfare of Art & Law Podcast Stephanie Drawdy

    • Arts
    • 5.0 • 7 Ratings

Warfare of Art and Law Podcast sparks conversation about the intriguing – and sometimes infuriating – stories that arise in the worlds of art and law with artist and attorney Stephanie Drawdy. 

    Author & Art Historian Dr Laura Morelli Discusses her Historical Fiction Novel The Last Masterpiece and WWII Looting of Florentine Collections

    Author & Art Historian Dr Laura Morelli Discusses her Historical Fiction Novel The Last Masterpiece and WWII Looting of Florentine Collections

    To learn more, please visit Laura Morelli's site.

    Show Notes:
    0:00 Laura Morelli  discussing the WWII era art looting
    1:15 genesis of writing about the looting of Florentine art collections in The Last Masterpiece 
    2:45 German Jewish artist Rudolph Levy as guest of German Art History Institute 
    4:30 Stolperstein for Levy
    5:00 perspectives in WWII Italy: museum officials, German expatriates and Allies
    8:30 German Eva Brunner and American Josephine Evans - characters in The Last Masterpiece 
    9:30 decisions on where to begin and end The Last Masterpiece
    13:30 decision to use fictional characters versus historical figures in book
    14:40 German Art History Institute Director Prof. Friedrich Kriegbaum
    16:00 Kriegbaum’s participation in Hitler’s 1938 tour of Florence
    18:25 Brunner’s back story
    20:10 German photographer Hilde Lotz-Bauer who worked for Prof. Kriegbaum photographing Allied damage to historical monuments in Florence 
    24:15 Evans based on Women’s Army Corp (WACs)
    28:25 women who worked with and supported the Monuments Men
    29:00 justice in terms of the individual actions and decisions that enabled the survival of art looted during WWII
    31:30 books by Robert Edsel and Ilaria Dagnini Brey
    32:15 survival bias 
    33:30 van Dyck painting
    33:40 Uffizi Director Eike Schmidt’s work for Germany to return looted Dutch painting
    35:00 impact of propaganda during WWII
    38:10 Michelangelo’s Secret Room with 16th C drawings 
    42:20 2024 release of book related to hiding places in Tuscan countryside in 1943-44


    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com

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    Music by Toulme.

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    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.

    Thanks so much for listening!

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

    • 46 min
    Novelist & Attorney Barbara Hinske Discusses her Rosemont Series, Guiding Emily Series & Hallmark Movie, Discrimination Against the Blind, Art's Ability to Address Social Issues and Much More

    Novelist & Attorney Barbara Hinske Discusses her Rosemont Series, Guiding Emily Series & Hallmark Movie, Discrimination Against the Blind, Art's Ability to Address Social Issues and Much More

    To learn more, please visit Barbara Hinske's website.

    Cover photo of Barbara Hinske, 2020 Jean Laninga Creative.

    Show Notes:

    0:00 Guiding Emily Series to effect change for good in the sighted community

    1:15 background in engineering and the law

    2:00 whodunit books by Barbara’s father

    2:25 double vision by auto accident led to Rosemont series

    3:55 her approach to writing while still working as an attorney

    7:00 work with a writing coach

    8:15 writing coach Linden Gross

    8:45 Author Conference on Clubhouse

    10:30 Rosemont Series 

    13:50 Guiding Emily Series

    14:45 Guiding Emily movie on Hallmark in April 2024

    15:00 genesis of Guiding Emily at Foundation for Blind Children

    22:50 discrimination against the visually impaired community

    24:45 unemployment rate of the visually impaired community

    26:00 panel to address employability of individuals from visually impaired community

    30:05 viewers@hallmarkmedia.com

    35:20 exclusion of unsighted parents

    37:30 guide dog graduation ceremony

    40:20 Guiding Emily presentation

    41:40 power of art to shift and address social issues

    42:00 The Christmas Club

    44:00 pregnant unsighted individual’s experience

    45:30 Canadian child at Foundation for Blind Children

    46:55 definition of justice

    49:15 The Write Approach podcast

    51:20 Hinske’s strong older female protagonists 

    53:50 Final Circuit 

    57:30 self-published in e-book and print; traditionally published in audio

    58:00 Hinske’s legacy to uplift, encourage and empower
    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com

    To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.

    Music by Toulme.

    To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.

    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.

    Thanks so much for listening!

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

    • 1 hr
    *Bonus* "Manifestation of Freedom" from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid

    *Bonus* "Manifestation of Freedom" from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid

    Featuring excerpts from Episode 108, an interview with Dr. Ashfaq Ishaq, and Episode 105, an interview with Milena Chorna, with musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2024.
    Many thanks to M.C. Sungaila who sparked the idea for "Manifestation of Freedom". 



    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com

    To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.

    Music by Toulme.

    To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.

    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.

    Thanks so much for listening!

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

    • 3 min
    Appellate Attorney M.C. Sungaila on Space Cultural Heritage Preservation and Lessons to be drawn from Holocaust-Era Restitution Cases like Cassirer

    Appellate Attorney M.C. Sungaila on Space Cultural Heritage Preservation and Lessons to be drawn from Holocaust-Era Restitution Cases like Cassirer

    Show Notes:
    0:00 M.C. Sungaila discussing history / preservation of space exploration
    1:50 Sungaila’s Portia Project Podcast interview with Space Law Expert Michelle Hanlon
    2:45 Sungaila’s experience with University of Mississippi School of Law’s Air and Space Program
    5:30 unclear language related to space law
    8:00 mining on the moon
    9:40 lessons from Holocaust-era restitution cases like Cassirer v. Thyssen-Bornemisza Collection Foundation
    12:30 For All Moonkind
    13:30 International Symposium on Cultural Heritage in War and Peace: Tangible and Intangible Cultural Heritage through Past, Present and Future
    16:45 Sungaila’s proposed framework to create space cultural heritage commission
    22:45 The Artemis Accords
    24:50 Italian Opera added to UNESCO intangible cultural heritage list
    25:15 treaty requiring registration of space objects
    25:35 For All Moonkind’s moon registry
    26:10 One Small Step To Protect Human Heritage in Space Act
    27:40 Sungaila’s projection
    29:30 Dubai space court
    31:25 urgency of space cultural heritage preservation
    32:40 definition of justice
    35:40 9th Cir's 9 Jan 2024 opinion in Cassirer and the question of ethics and law
    39:45 Mismatch between domestic law and international obligations
    42:10 Institute on Space Law and Ethics
    44:00 issues related to satellites, drones, air taxis
    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com

    To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.

    Music by Toulme.

    To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.

    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.

    Thanks so much for listening!

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

    • 47 min
    Attorney Sanjay Sethi Discusses Artistic Freedom Initiative's Work, Oppression of the Arts and Cultural Sectors Globally & the Need for Pluralistic Discourse

    Attorney Sanjay Sethi Discusses Artistic Freedom Initiative's Work, Oppression of the Arts and Cultural Sectors Globally & the Need for Pluralistic Discourse

    Cover image by Nosrat Tarighi of Sanjay Sethi at an AFI event entitled Revolutions and Movements

    To learn more, please visit the sites for Artistic Freedom Initiative and Sethi & Mazaheri, LLC.


    Show Notes:


    2:00 overview of Sethi’s background and work as Founding Partner of Sethi & Mazaheri, LLC and Co-Executive Director of Artistic Freedom Initiative (AFI)
    3:45 genesis and mission of AFI
    5:00 AFI’s services
    8:00 AFI’s residency program
    9:00 AFI’s Artists for Social Change
    9:45 challenges to helping artists
    13:00 AFI’s creation of a sponsorship model
    13:30 AFI’s program in Germany
    15:00 determination of artists in imminent danger
    16:20 assistance for female artists
    18:20 university placements for female artists
    18:40 the New School’s fellowships for Afghan artists at risk
    19:00 Germany’s program for artists at risk
    21:00 Journals of Exile at the Berliner Ensemble
    22:10 programs through AFI’s Artists For Social Change
    23:45 Brazilian Singer Songwriter Bia Ferreira
    25:20 AFI’s Afghan Artists Protection Project & Iranian Artists Support Project
    27:00 challenges of single intent visas like student visas and O-1 visas
    28:30 denial of entry based on immigration intent for Afghan versus Iranian artists 
    30:00 applications from Myanmar, Egypt, Nicaragua, India and particular Kashmir
    31:00 impact of prior and upcoming elections 
    31:30 Poland shifted back to center left with loss of Law and Justice (PiS) party
    31:50 Slovakia’s election of Robert Fico with agenda similar to Hungary’s Viktor Orbán
    32:00 Slovenia’s election of liberal Robert Golob
    32:10 Brazil’s election of leftist former president, defeating Pres. Jair Bolsonaro
    32:15 Indian PM Narendra Modi’s Hindu Nationalist Party projected to win 
    32:30 elections in Italy and the Netherlands
    32:45 new and different threats to cultural sectors globally
    33:00 AfI’s Artistic Freedom Monitor - initial reports on Poland and Hungary
    36:00 regimes replaced museum/cultural institution heads with right wing politicians
    36:00 Curation of shows under those regimes would conform to nationalist ideals
    37:25  defunding anti-regime institutions or anti-Catholic in Poland 
    37:50 intimidation of non-conforming artists
    38:10 Poland’s use of blasphemy law to criminally charge non-conforming artists
    38:00 chilling effect of such subversive mechanisms 
    39:15 AFI’s position that arts decisions should be merits-based and non-ideological   
    39:30 response to Artistic Freedom Monitor’s reports
    40:00 erroneous belief that arts are inconsequential in public & political dialogue 
    41:35 elevation of AFI’s advocacy efforts to an international forum 
    44:00 collaboration to lobby for artistic and creative freedom
    45:00 impact of artificial intelligence 
    47:50 legacy of his work
    49:50 how his notion of justice has evolved




    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com

    To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.

    Music by Toulme.

    To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.

    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.

    Thanks so much for listening!

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

    • 55 min
    Dr. Elizabeth White and Dr. Joanna Sliwa discuss their book, The Counterfeit Countess: the Jewish Woman Who Rescued Thousands of Poles During the Holocaust

    Dr. Elizabeth White and Dr. Joanna Sliwa discuss their book, The Counterfeit Countess: the Jewish Woman Who Rescued Thousands of Poles During the Holocaust

    Show Notes:
    2:00 Dr. Joanna Sliwa’s background
    4:20 Dr. Elizabeth White’s background 
    5:20 Majdanek concentration camp
    8:00 1989 - White received the manuscript of Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s unpublished memoir from Dr. Arthur Funk
    10:30 Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s humanitarian work in Polish concentration camp during WWII
    12:20 Mehlberg’s alias as Countess Suchodolska
    13:30 2018 - Dr. Joanna Sliwa began work with Dr. White to research Mehlberg's memoir
    15:00 reading from The Counterfeit Countess
    20:00 balance of co-authoring The Counterfeit Countess
    22:20 research process
    24:00 surprises from the research 
    27:45 Countess Karolina Lanckorońska
    30:30 Saturnina Malm
    33:30 Dr. Stefania Perzanowska 
    35:00 view of women’s roles during war and instances of persecution 
    38:00 empathic approach of Mehlberg as a model for today
    42:00 propoganda
    46:00 individual ways to address hate
    49:00 justice
    51:45 legacy
    54:30 Sliwa’s focus on marginalized groups, including future volume on experiences of older jews before, during and after the Holocaust  


    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com

    To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.

    Music by Toulme.

    To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.

    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.

    Thanks so much for listening!

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2024]

    • 57 min

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