Making Spaces with Rev. Sarah Heath & Josie Jimenez Sarah Heath & Josephine Jael Jimenez

Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses prejudice, gentrification, exclusion, and immigration so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.

Many communities create a dualistic environment where one is focused on either action or belief. Put another way: Some folks get overly focused on right belief (orthodoxy) and other folks get overly focused on right action (orthopraxis). This week’s Space Makers, Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza and Rev. Anna Golladay, are the hosts of the Activist Theology Podcast, a podcast born out of the Activist Theology Project. Both the podcast and the project are creating a movement focused on reclaiming the practice of integrating theory and practice. This conversation is both challenging and filled with hope. We talk about why getting really local with our activism can be the best way to live out our own beliefs and why exhaustion is different for those who live in marginalized bodies. 

*Quick update on the show- this is the final episode of season three. As Sarah makes space for what is next in her own life the show is going on a break. Please check out our previous episodes and thank you for all of your support. We will update you about what is next for “Making Spaces the Podcast” soon. 

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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses non-affirming schools and churches, gentrification and exclusion, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.

More and more than ever before, our “first impressions” are happening online. This is true for dating, but also for how we first perceive any organization. When looking at a website or online posting we intuitively know if this is “a space” for us. This week’s Space Maker, Nathanial Totten Green, creates online and in person gatherings that seek to continually welcome and include. Nathanial is the Director of Communications for Q Christian Fellowship, and the Communications & Operations Specialist for Grace Pointe Fellowship, a fully inclusive community in Nashville, Tennessee. This conversation discusses how curating content has the opportunity to be inviting, but also gentrifying. In this conversation, Nathanial offers great insights on questions to ask to “make space” and how to avoid continuing to define who is and who is not welcome in a space. Who knew a font could make you feel more included? Designers. Designers knew. This is a delightful conversation that we hope you will enjoy!
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This week, we are joined by fellow Irreverent podcaster, Dr. Brad Onishi. Brad is the co-host of the widely beloved (and sometimes hated) podcast Straight White American Jesus. They tackle all things Evangelicalism and it's ties to right-wing Christian nationalism. In this episode, we talk about Orange County, where the three of us have lived at some point, and how it has become a breeding ground for the biggest movements within right-wing Evangelicalism. But even these people need some space in the world, regardless of whether we agree with them. Brad is on a mission to uncover the roots of the movement and coming up with new ways to challenge and invite them into great empathy.

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straightwhiteamericanjesus.com
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses trauma, chronic pain, disability and deaths related to Covid 19, so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.

Making spaces, like a flower garden, that serve no “purpose” other than beauty teaches us that worth is not predicated by “usefulness.” This week’s Space Maker, Stephanie Tait, joined us for a conversation from her garden to discuss the lessons of resistance she has learned over the last year tending her garden. Stephanie is an author, speaker, disability advocate, and trauma survivor. Her work aims to create space for the reality of suffering and help provide practical tools for its management and acknowledgement of that suffering in communities of faith and beyond. This conversation is a beautiful reminder that we cannot bypass our suffering to arrive quickly at purpose. Every season is needed and of value, even if it appears barren and unproductive. Space making, like gardening, isn’t always about what is happening above ground, but some of the biggest changes have to happen below the soil. We hope you enjoy this challenging conversation because we sure did!

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https://www.stephanietaitwrites.com/
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Content Warning: You may feel your own trauma activated by some of the content of this episode. It discusses trauma, suicide, and gender roles so please listen with awareness. Listener discretion is advised.

In some capacity, we are all leaders and, whether we recognize it or not, we have impact on the spaces in which we exist. This week’s Space Maker is Rebecca Ching, LMFT. Rebecca is a psychotherapist, a trauma informed leadership coach, and the host of the podcast “The Unburdened Leader.” This conversation was a deep dive into why it takes courage to choose kindness and how being curious about your own internal motivations and pain helps make us better Space Makers and leaders. Even if you don’t consider yourself a leader, this episode is filled with reflection and wisdom that is valuable for us all.
 
For more of Rebecca Ching, head to her website:
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This week’s episode was edited by Josephine Jael Jimenez and produced by Sarah Heath
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